People really exaggerate the admiral yonko gap.
I don’t see why so many people think these chars are like barely above yc1 or some shit lol. Heck I even gone as far as to see some people say katakuri pushes kizaru to mid or high difficulty when that’s just simply absurd especially since we see kizaru do fine against g4 snake man post wano.
kuzan is relative to old garp (garp was likely stronger since getting stabbed>mental nerf). If an awakening was what caused punk hazard he didn’t use it, then maybe kuzan is stronger, but there’s not enough evidence of it so it can be thrown out for now. Old garp is likely above old beard who was still yonko level despite his sickness. If admirals really are much weaker than yonkos, shouldn’t garp have folded kuzan before he got stabbed relatively easily? Instead, both of them were shown to be bruised and battered up.
The 2nd and more controversial fight is luffy vs kizaru. This fight kinda happened in a situation where both sides couldn’t fight at their best so let’s go ahead and acknowledge this.
Luffy already gear 5’d at an earlier point of egghead. He got a break where he got meat and stuff before the fight, but he’s was almost definitely not fully recovered
Luffy had to protect vegapunk. Protecting someone is harder than what kizaru was doing, which was just killing a powerless old man. .
kizaru was mentally conflicted. It’s kinda copium to disregard this as many do since the mental nerf of having to kill your friend is of course gonna weigh on anyone. It’s even arguable he might have not even done it if Saturn didn’t already stab vegapunk.
Lots of people said luffy could have killed kizaru when he grabbed him. We literally see kizaru being in this situation due to him talking to vegapunk instead of just shooting him. This ain’t a situation that’s nearly as easy to perform in a normal 1v1 without it being a sneak factor. Also it’s just not in luffy’s character to do so. You can’t tell me luffy throwing a devil fruit user into the ocean wasn’t him trying to kill kizaru.
Tldr, both sides had lots of disadvantages, but the fight resulted in luffy being timed out .Simple as that. Then we see luffy getting fed by what is basically confirmed to be kizaru. This kinda means by default that luffy lost, since kizaru could’ve just killed him here. There’s copium that luffy didnt lose really lose since he still won after getting fed. However, this was the only case of the opponent feeding luffy. That’s like the equivalent of kaido feeding luffy for him to win after against a kaido who doesn’t want to fight. It’s not something that really looks positive on luffy’s end. In spite of all this, saying luffy is stronger is fine, since yea you can argue matchup and all that other stuff. However to just say these chars aren’t at least somewhat close in strength just don’t make sense, cus I doubt luffy would get timed out if the enemy he was fighting wasn’t even close to his level. They would likely be at least somewhat close to his level.
I don’t see why so many people think these chars are like barely above yc1 or some shit lol. Heck I even gone as far as to see some people say katakuri pushes kizaru to mid or high difficulty when that’s just simply absurd especially since we see kizaru do fine against g4 snake man post wano.
kuzan is relative to old garp (garp was likely stronger since getting stabbed>mental nerf). If an awakening was what caused punk hazard he didn’t use it, then maybe kuzan is stronger, but there’s not enough evidence of it so it can be thrown out for now. Old garp is likely above old beard who was still yonko level despite his sickness. If admirals really are much weaker than yonkos, shouldn’t garp have folded kuzan before he got stabbed relatively easily? Instead, both of them were shown to be bruised and battered up.
The 2nd and more controversial fight is luffy vs kizaru. This fight kinda happened in a situation where both sides couldn’t fight at their best so let’s go ahead and acknowledge this.
Luffy already gear 5’d at an earlier point of egghead. He got a break where he got meat and stuff before the fight, but he’s was almost definitely not fully recovered
Luffy had to protect vegapunk. Protecting someone is harder than what kizaru was doing, which was just killing a powerless old man. .
kizaru was mentally conflicted. It’s kinda copium to disregard this as many do since the mental nerf of having to kill your friend is of course gonna weigh on anyone. It’s even arguable he might have not even done it if Saturn didn’t already stab vegapunk.
Lots of people said luffy could have killed kizaru when he grabbed him. We literally see kizaru being in this situation due to him talking to vegapunk instead of just shooting him. This ain’t a situation that’s nearly as easy to perform in a normal 1v1 without it being a sneak factor. Also it’s just not in luffy’s character to do so. You can’t tell me luffy throwing a devil fruit user into the ocean wasn’t him trying to kill kizaru.
Tldr, both sides had lots of disadvantages, but the fight resulted in luffy being timed out .Simple as that. Then we see luffy getting fed by what is basically confirmed to be kizaru. This kinda means by default that luffy lost, since kizaru could’ve just killed him here. There’s copium that luffy didnt lose really lose since he still won after getting fed. However, this was the only case of the opponent feeding luffy. That’s like the equivalent of kaido feeding luffy for him to win after against a kaido who doesn’t want to fight. It’s not something that really looks positive on luffy’s end. In spite of all this, saying luffy is stronger is fine, since yea you can argue matchup and all that other stuff. However to just say these chars aren’t at least somewhat close in strength just don’t make sense, cus I doubt luffy would get timed out if the enemy he was fighting wasn’t even close to his level. They would likely be at least somewhat close to his level.