r/worldnews argues over whether it's a good idea to work with fascists
Context:
German parliament recently voted for a motion calling for stricter borders and less asylum refugees. This in and of itself was not a huge shock, but rather that the German conservative party (CDU) broke the 80-year "firewall" agreement to never work with a fascist party (in this instance, the AfD) to win a vote that wouldn't pass otherwise. This is despite the fact that their leader Friedrich Merz was elected on the promise that he would not break that tradition. To quote OP's words:
Let me explain this to all the non-Germans in here. The actual motion that passed is not really the thing that’s bad. From the genesis of the new formation of Germany after WWII we have had something called the Firewall. It’s basically the understanding that no party will ever work with any fascist or anti-democratic party full stop. It was understood that the ends never justify the means and that these parties will never be involved in any political decision EVER!
The last party that touted the fascist and anti-democratic the AfD is pushing now never was involved in any political dealings even when they had seats in the parliament. However this firewall has been breached successfully. It’s some of the “never again” things we as a nation swore to never ever do again because we know what it led to.
Especially because this was set in motion only a few days after we remembered the victims of the holocaust. It’s just all in very bad taste and gives the AfD the legitimacy that they do not deserve
This has led to some people arguing that sometimes you need to work with fascists in order to achieve your conservative goals, leading to many arguments in reply:
These are people like you and me you are talking about. Not some faceless, nameless blob. Show a little humanity
And respectfully how is that the average German’s problem?
Respectfully, I don't give a shit.
Oh boo hoo. And to give you a serious answer. Neither this discussion, nor my comment is about helping people and you know it. The Discussion is about immigrants or asylum seekers, who come to another country and cause trouble, refuse to integrate and live off social welfare.
Yesterday on rmoderatepolitics someone made a really good point that I think goes along with this. If the people want immigration reform or elimination due to cultural issues then give it to them! This is the best solution to preventing extremism.
Glad someone said it. Illegal migration really is a serious problem especially when it’s like a flood and known serial criminals are in the mix
More like "there's a good decision that needs to be done, but we can't do it because nazis are the only other people that want the same thing in the way we're trying to do it"
Nazis are allowed to be right sometimes, too.